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		<title>By: Christina</title>
		<link>http://pizzalocust.com/archives/332/comment-page-1#comment-320</link>
		<dc:creator>Christina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 02:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went into this great place after seeing it on the Food Network. Totally lived up to my expectations and actually exceeded them. Fresh ingredients are key and Justin really let the flavors come through in the sauce and the use of fresh mozzarella.  Service was very good and we ordered a salad before the pizza which was also very tasty.  My husband and I will return here and become regulars.  I&#039;m sure a busy place is busy because something about the restaurant will keep people coming back.  In this case, it&#039;s the pizza.  Good job, Piazza al Forno!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went into this great place after seeing it on the Food Network. Totally lived up to my expectations and actually exceeded them. Fresh ingredients are key and Justin really let the flavors come through in the sauce and the use of fresh mozzarella.  Service was very good and we ordered a salad before the pizza which was also very tasty.  My husband and I will return here and become regulars.  I&#8217;m sure a busy place is busy because something about the restaurant will keep people coming back.  In this case, it&#8217;s the pizza.  Good job, Piazza al Forno!</p>
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		<title>By: Pizza Locust</title>
		<link>http://pizzalocust.com/archives/332/comment-page-1#comment-269</link>
		<dc:creator>Pizza Locust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 02:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I admit, I was rather hot under the collar at the time.

Under cooler circumstances, I probably would just go with the following:

Not everyone agrees on what a good pizza is.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion.
The ultimate test of a pizza is how it pleases the person consuming it, not some arbitrary rules defining it.  (Even though I have my own arbitrary rules defining pizza... :-) )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I admit, I was rather hot under the collar at the time.</p>
<p>Under cooler circumstances, I probably would just go with the following:</p>
<p>Not everyone agrees on what a good pizza is.<br />
Everyone is entitled to an opinion.<br />
The ultimate test of a pizza is how it pleases the person consuming it, not some arbitrary rules defining it.  (Even though I have my own arbitrary rules defining pizza&#8230; <img src='http://pizzalocust.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  )</p>
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		<title>By: Eating The Road</title>
		<link>http://pizzalocust.com/archives/332/comment-page-1#comment-268</link>
		<dc:creator>Eating The Road</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! I just saw your response here. That&#039;s quite a diatribe and I agree wholeheartedly with everything you&#039;ve said. You can see from the comments on my write-up that Justin came around a little bit. I don&#039;t mind him coming after me a little but I do think he jumped to the whole &quot;what makes you you a critic&quot; thing too quickly and got really defense from the beginning. I find the whole &quot;real&quot; Napolentana thing a bit much too. Either make good pizza or don&#039;t...it&#039;s not something complicated. I could care less if all the mysterious criteria are met...what I really cafe about is how my belly feels afterward :)

Keep up all the awesome eating and writing you&#039;re doing!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! I just saw your response here. That&#8217;s quite a diatribe and I agree wholeheartedly with everything you&#8217;ve said. You can see from the comments on my write-up that Justin came around a little bit. I don&#8217;t mind him coming after me a little but I do think he jumped to the whole &#8220;what makes you you a critic&#8221; thing too quickly and got really defense from the beginning. I find the whole &#8220;real&#8221; Napolentana thing a bit much too. Either make good pizza or don&#8217;t&#8230;it&#8217;s not something complicated. I could care less if all the mysterious criteria are met&#8230;what I really cafe about is how my belly feels afterward <img src='http://pizzalocust.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Keep up all the awesome eating and writing you&#8217;re doing!!</p>
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		<title>By: Pizza Locust</title>
		<link>http://pizzalocust.com/archives/332/comment-page-1#comment-258</link>
		<dc:creator>Pizza Locust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 18:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s really a shame.  There&#039;s never an excuse for bad service.
As you can see above, I&#039;ve heard other complaints about the service.  I haven&#039;t experienced that, but I do my damnedest to avoid peak times.  Nothing gets me into an unfavorable pizza-reviewing mood than bad service before the pie even arrives.

I can see from the comments on &lt;a href=&quot;http://eatingtheroad.wordpress.com/2009/10/28/la-piazza-al-forno/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;your review&lt;/a&gt; the owner is &quot;defending&quot; themselves on some rather shaky ground.  

I particularly dislike the implied &lt;em&gt;ad hominem&lt;/em&gt; attack &quot;are you a food critic?&quot;  What &lt;em&gt;really&lt;/em&gt; does one need to be a food critic - other than be a customer of that establishment?  You sell a product, people consume the product, each and every one of them has the right to their opinion about it and critique it - even if they&#039;ve never had anything other than Peter Piper Pizza in their lives.  

You could serve feces on a ritz cracker to some food critics in the newspapers and if you gave them enough wine, they&#039;d write a rave review about it.  The only real merit in a &quot;professional&quot; critic is that they have a body of work with which to compare one&#039;s own taste against.  Find one you trust and stick with them.

The whole nonsense about Neapolitan pizzas is a silly dodge also.  Neapolitan is trying to be protected as more-or-less a local trade name, not unlike Champagne, but sparkling wine is really just the same thing and can be better than the so-called &quot;real&quot; stuff.  If if I recall correctly, &quot;real&quot; Neapolitan pizza only comes in two or three variants, all of them rather plain:  Margherita or less.

In my book, they&#039;ve got gall to even call crust with feta cheese and creamy pesto sauce a pizza, let alone Neapolitan pizza.  I utterly detest these bizarre variants, designed, I&#039;ve always assumed, for people who don&#039;t actually like pizza.  I try to stay out of that argument completely because that&#039;s a matter of personal taste, &lt;strong&gt;but&lt;/strong&gt;, if they&#039;re going to try to claim the high ground, they&#039;ve got some pretty big &lt;em&gt;cajones&lt;/em&gt; to try to defend your Neapolitan Pizza and then allow feta cheese and pesto to be put on it.  I do take it that his point is to be referring to the crust only, but that isn&#039;t what the definition is.

On the other hand: shame on you for being talked into a non-pizza in the first place. :-)

Looking back on my review, which covered two visits in short succession, and a couple additional trips since then, I&#039;d sum it up like this:  Crust - hit and miss on the cooking, it&#039;s certainly not consistent.  Tomato sauce, excellent.  Sopressata, excellent.  Mozzarella, bland, but not offensive - absolutely typical for homemade mozzarella, though.  Overall excellent tasting if they&#039;d just get their crust consistent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s really a shame.  There&#8217;s never an excuse for bad service.<br />
As you can see above, I&#8217;ve heard other complaints about the service.  I haven&#8217;t experienced that, but I do my damnedest to avoid peak times.  Nothing gets me into an unfavorable pizza-reviewing mood than bad service before the pie even arrives.</p>
<p>I can see from the comments on <a href="http://eatingtheroad.wordpress.com/2009/10/28/la-piazza-al-forno/" rel="nofollow">your review</a> the owner is &#8220;defending&#8221; themselves on some rather shaky ground.  </p>
<p>I particularly dislike the implied <em>ad hominem</em> attack &#8220;are you a food critic?&#8221;  What <em>really</em> does one need to be a food critic &#8211; other than be a customer of that establishment?  You sell a product, people consume the product, each and every one of them has the right to their opinion about it and critique it &#8211; even if they&#8217;ve never had anything other than Peter Piper Pizza in their lives.  </p>
<p>You could serve feces on a ritz cracker to some food critics in the newspapers and if you gave them enough wine, they&#8217;d write a rave review about it.  The only real merit in a &#8220;professional&#8221; critic is that they have a body of work with which to compare one&#8217;s own taste against.  Find one you trust and stick with them.</p>
<p>The whole nonsense about Neapolitan pizzas is a silly dodge also.  Neapolitan is trying to be protected as more-or-less a local trade name, not unlike Champagne, but sparkling wine is really just the same thing and can be better than the so-called &#8220;real&#8221; stuff.  If if I recall correctly, &#8220;real&#8221; Neapolitan pizza only comes in two or three variants, all of them rather plain:  Margherita or less.</p>
<p>In my book, they&#8217;ve got gall to even call crust with feta cheese and creamy pesto sauce a pizza, let alone Neapolitan pizza.  I utterly detest these bizarre variants, designed, I&#8217;ve always assumed, for people who don&#8217;t actually like pizza.  I try to stay out of that argument completely because that&#8217;s a matter of personal taste, <strong>but</strong>, if they&#8217;re going to try to claim the high ground, they&#8217;ve got some pretty big <em>cajones</em> to try to defend your Neapolitan Pizza and then allow feta cheese and pesto to be put on it.  I do take it that his point is to be referring to the crust only, but that isn&#8217;t what the definition is.</p>
<p>On the other hand: shame on you for being talked into a non-pizza in the first place. <img src='http://pizzalocust.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Looking back on my review, which covered two visits in short succession, and a couple additional trips since then, I&#8217;d sum it up like this:  Crust &#8211; hit and miss on the cooking, it&#8217;s certainly not consistent.  Tomato sauce, excellent.  Sopressata, excellent.  Mozzarella, bland, but not offensive &#8211; absolutely typical for homemade mozzarella, though.  Overall excellent tasting if they&#8217;d just get their crust consistent.</p>
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		<title>By: Eating The Road</title>
		<link>http://pizzalocust.com/archives/332/comment-page-1#comment-257</link>
		<dc:creator>Eating The Road</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know...I just didn&#039;t have the best experience:
http://eatingtheroad.wordpress.com/2009/10/28/la-piazza-al-forno/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know&#8230;I just didn&#8217;t have the best experience:<br />
<a href="http://eatingtheroad.wordpress.com/2009/10/28/la-piazza-al-forno/" rel="nofollow">http://eatingtheroad.wordpress.com/2009/10/28/la-piazza-al-forno/</a></p>
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		<title>By: buddy</title>
		<link>http://pizzalocust.com/archives/332/comment-page-1#comment-244</link>
		<dc:creator>buddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 06:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried this place today. I was very disappointed from the moment we arrived, and it continued to get worse. To begin, we called ahead, as recommended on their website, around 4:45 p.m., preparing for a 6:00 p.m. gathering of 6 people. We were warned it was not a reservation, but we were assured the wait would be less than 10 minutes. 
Our entire party arrive about 5 minutes early (5:55 p.m.). I introduced myself to the hostess and mentioned I&#039;d called ahead. She said they didn&#039;t have any tables available, and the wait would be 25 minutes. Wow, quite a bit more that we&#039;d expected, but didn&#039;t consider that to be too extreme. So, we waited. 
There is no waiting area, except to stand out on the street. Very uncomfortable in the afternoon in the valley. 
As we waited, there were about 4 or 5 families of 2 to 4 people people who arrived after us and were seated immediately. My wife and I both reminded the hostess we were still waiting, but they said our table was almost ready. They had an empty 4-person table in a corner, but there was nothing near it to expand to 6.
After 30 minutes, I asked to speak with the manager. When she came over, I attempted to convey my dissatisfaction by repeating the events that occurred. She had the gall to defend it; stating the 8-person table is only allowed for groups of 8, not 6. 
At 6:40, they brought in and seated a group of 8 that arrived at 6:30, they also &quot;called ahead&quot;. They had moved two 4-person tables together to fit 8. I got up and headed to the door, at which time they said our table was ready. It turned out to be a different table for four that they moved away from the wall and added 2 chairs. It was extremely cramped at the table, to say the least. We stuck around because we were hungry, with the hope that the food would be better than the service.
We ordered salad and 2 pizzas. The salad was good. However, the first of the 2 pizzas was delivered about 1 minute after the salad. When the second pizza arrived, it was placed under the pizza stand, directly on the table, below the first pizza. We had our table full; salad serving bowl, salad plates, pizza stand, two pizzas, pizza plates and drinks. 
As for the pizza, I can&#039;t offer a good opinion of the taste of the pizza, because by the time I finished a half plate of salad, the pizza crust had become soft. 
When we received the check, it already had a gratuity added. I asked to have that removed, and the waitress obliged. This must have finally got peoples attention. After I paid without a tip, a gentleman who was in the kitchen, came over and introduced himself as the owner. I explained the story, again, but he insisted there was no other way they could have accommodated me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried this place today. I was very disappointed from the moment we arrived, and it continued to get worse. To begin, we called ahead, as recommended on their website, around 4:45 p.m., preparing for a 6:00 p.m. gathering of 6 people. We were warned it was not a reservation, but we were assured the wait would be less than 10 minutes.<br />
Our entire party arrive about 5 minutes early (5:55 p.m.). I introduced myself to the hostess and mentioned I&#8217;d called ahead. She said they didn&#8217;t have any tables available, and the wait would be 25 minutes. Wow, quite a bit more that we&#8217;d expected, but didn&#8217;t consider that to be too extreme. So, we waited.<br />
There is no waiting area, except to stand out on the street. Very uncomfortable in the afternoon in the valley.<br />
As we waited, there were about 4 or 5 families of 2 to 4 people people who arrived after us and were seated immediately. My wife and I both reminded the hostess we were still waiting, but they said our table was almost ready. They had an empty 4-person table in a corner, but there was nothing near it to expand to 6.<br />
After 30 minutes, I asked to speak with the manager. When she came over, I attempted to convey my dissatisfaction by repeating the events that occurred. She had the gall to defend it; stating the 8-person table is only allowed for groups of 8, not 6.<br />
At 6:40, they brought in and seated a group of 8 that arrived at 6:30, they also &#8220;called ahead&#8221;. They had moved two 4-person tables together to fit 8. I got up and headed to the door, at which time they said our table was ready. It turned out to be a different table for four that they moved away from the wall and added 2 chairs. It was extremely cramped at the table, to say the least. We stuck around because we were hungry, with the hope that the food would be better than the service.<br />
We ordered salad and 2 pizzas. The salad was good. However, the first of the 2 pizzas was delivered about 1 minute after the salad. When the second pizza arrived, it was placed under the pizza stand, directly on the table, below the first pizza. We had our table full; salad serving bowl, salad plates, pizza stand, two pizzas, pizza plates and drinks.<br />
As for the pizza, I can&#8217;t offer a good opinion of the taste of the pizza, because by the time I finished a half plate of salad, the pizza crust had become soft.<br />
When we received the check, it already had a gratuity added. I asked to have that removed, and the waitress obliged. This must have finally got peoples attention. After I paid without a tip, a gentleman who was in the kitchen, came over and introduced himself as the owner. I explained the story, again, but he insisted there was no other way they could have accommodated me.</p>
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		<title>By: Kiki</title>
		<link>http://pizzalocust.com/archives/332/comment-page-1#comment-225</link>
		<dc:creator>Kiki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 23:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good to hear. I just saw this one on the Food Network. I live in Mesa so I wasn&#039;t sure if I really wanted to make the drive out there. I guess I will have to try it. Hmmm, if dinner is always slammed I am not sure when will be a good time! Thanks for the review. You really helped me make my mind up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to hear. I just saw this one on the Food Network. I live in Mesa so I wasn&#8217;t sure if I really wanted to make the drive out there. I guess I will have to try it. Hmmm, if dinner is always slammed I am not sure when will be a good time! Thanks for the review. You really helped me make my mind up!</p>
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